Lexus LS vs 2009 BMW 7-Series
Josh Lewis | Sep 29, 2008 | Comments 9
I originally had a different weekly blog setup for you guys to read, but, unfortunately, the car that I was going to review hasn’t come in, yet… Just the low down, my father got a new car. Well, it’s actually a used 2005 Exotic, that when it first went on sale in 1991 became an instant hit and showed that all Exotic sports cars had to be able to be used daily and still work. It was the sports car that was the performance mark of the McLaren F1 by Gordon Murray. Can you guess what it is?
It was supposed to come off the truck yesterday at our house, and then it was postponed till today. Well, the night time comes round, and I’m sitting here waiting for the new baby to arrive… No show by the truck driver. Also, the driver doesn’t seem to want to answer his cell phone, call back, nor can I leave a message. Interesting to say the least.
But, I have something very interesting for you guys this week, still. I actually did this for BMW Blog, but when thinking about what to write for this week I realized that this would actually be perfect. I want everyone to see this and see as much truth as they can in the design elements of the new 2009 BMW 7-Series. Check it out.
Lexus LS vs 2009 BMW 7-Series
People have been saying ever since the new F01/02 7-Series debut back on July 3rd, that it is either identical or very similar to that of the Lexus LS 460. Is this true? I don’t really think that it’s a point of the new 7 looking like the new LS. We know they look alike, because Lexus copied enough off of the old 7 to always bear a BMW theme. It even has its own version of the Hofmeister Kink.
Let us take a close look at the design comparisons between the two cars. The more you look at the new 7, the more you realize that the BMW is way above the Lexus in so many ways, but styling especially.
The F01/02 7 has been a big hit in its true design theme. It has taken BMW to a whole new era of principle. The CS Concept design has been lent to the new 7. Which is something we all wanted. But, some say the new 7-Series is ugly, and that it copies too much of the Lexus LS.
The new, 4th Generation, Lexus LS came onto the scene in 2007. People loved it. But many critics said, “Why does it look a lot like the 7-Series?” And you could hear a low sigh by many automotive journalists around the world who realized that Chris Bangle was right, and that his designs were now taking shape in more cars. Even from Toyota! With the new generation you are able to get either an LS 460 or a long wheelbase version dubbed the LS 460L. You could also get a new LS 600H, or the LS 600H L. The H standing for Hybrid, of course. What would Toyota be without a Hybrid version of every car they make? I actually saw an LS 600H L last night while driving around the downtown area… The front LED style lights look very upscale and nice, at night. And then you see the rest of the car and you aren’t really impressed. At least I’m not when I see one.
Now, let’s show you the true similarities and differences.
1) Notice the tailpipes of the new 7. They look nothing like the Lexus. Sure, they are in the same style of rectangular tips. The BMW’s, however, make for a more elegant and classy look. Whereas the LS’s pipes try too hard to show off and be flashy.
2) Take a good look at the rear bumpers of all 3 cars. The BMW 7 shows a much more flatly rounded surface, where the LS is more flared and rounded off. No real similarity there.
3) The rear decklid is a very similar shape and height from the E66 750Li to the Lexus LS 460L. The new F02 750Li only shows a more unique view and design essence of the old 7.
4) Look at the shape of the windows on the BMW’s and the Lexus. Notice anything different? Yeah, neither did I.
5) See how the new 7 builds on its lights? You can see a 7 theme within the taillights, which I thought was very unique and interesting. The real lights actually try to look similar to that of the front headlights.
What have we learned here? We have, hopefully, learned that the new 7 copies nothing from the Lexus LS. It actually takes the simple and bold design theme of the old 7 and builds on a bold theme, but with more emphasis placed on beauty, smoother lines, and much more attention to detail.
Now let’s take a look at the cars from a difference angle:
1) Notice the front lower lip/grill of the E66 7. The LS 460L is nearly identical in style and amount of lip presence.
2) Notice the lights of the LS speak to nearly identical units of the 7. Granted, there are some minor curves to make them look different. But, the more you look, and the closer, for that matter, you see identical units.
3) Notice the rear Hofmeister Kink. Lexus has hidden their exact version of the Kink with a sharp line and point to try and shy away from the exact same design. Notice the lines I have had drawn in to show how it is actually sculpted, but with the chrome piece to hide it.
4) Notice the B and C-Pillars along with the rear-window rake. They are a near perfect match…
5) Lip spoiler on the Lexus LS shows its glaring approval of Chris Bangle’s design genius. Thank you Lexus for just reassuring that Bangle’s designs are widely criticized, but almost always used.
6) Take a look at the rear bumper lines. While the 750Li shows them with chrome and more dramatic sculpting, the LS 460L tries to hide its identical shape with less drastic and less essence. This is done to possibly hide the similarities in design that were used from the E65/66 7-Series
Take notice that there is no design direction that the F01/02 7-Series’ take from the Lexus LS. If you take a closer look, you will see that Lexus copied so much of the design of the old 7, that it would have been impossible for them to not look similar to a new 7. If you don’t look more closely, and just look at it the way Lexus fans do, you won’t see it. This is a position held by Lexus fanatics, because they can’t argue that BMW has taken anything from them. They do, however, try to hide the fact that Lexus has copied, and copied, a lot of things that BMW or Mercedes-Benz have done since their inception.
-Josh
“Happy Motoring!”
Filed Under: All Blog Entries • BMW • German Automotive News • Japanese Automotive News
About the Author: A life long automotive enthusiast, Josh spends most of his time behind the wheel of a car of some sort. When he's not playing around with cars and writing about them, he relaxes to Blues and writes music along with playing guitar.














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Of course, what other kind of garbage writing would we expect from a BMW fan boy. I’ve seen both cars in person, instead drawing red circles in Photoshop and such ridiculous exclamations as, “oh look, Lexus put their headlights in the front of the sedan, what copy-catters!” and the exterior AND interior design of the LS are way ahead of BMW.
BTW, I drive a 5 series…but I’m no fan boy lemming.
Congratulations on driving a 5-Series, Calvin. I’ve seen both in person, as well. Remember, this is what I do for a living… I’ve studied both designs to try and come up with the best reasoning on both cars.
The Lexus LS is a decent car, but it’s nothing like a BMW. The interior is not of very good quality, in my opinion. Before I was even a BMW nut, like I am now, I still hated their interiors. Korean and Japanese automakers have the cheesiest interiors. I used to sell Kia, Hyundai, Lexus, Toyota, Infiniti, Nissan, and the likes, when I was a car salesman. They smell weird after a certain period of time, and they just never looked that great to me. The feeling was off, too.
I’m not saying that BMWs are the best interiors in the world, they are far from it. But, they are worlds better than a Lexus…
Obviously, though, you didn’t really pay much attention to the actual details. It seems from your writing that you just saw a critical article and decided to say whatever…
I’m not a fan boy, I just have good taste. Maybe you will too, one day.
Lexus is a satellite guided cruise missle. BMW looks like a piece of junk wood you threw in those pre-civilization wars. just a true thought on the first impression. yeah, you are right, all japanese cars copied the four-wheel design, maybe that was from BMW?
bmw is simply the best
it is far better than lexus..
its front kidney grill and interior is outstanding
my comment about bmw is 99 percent and for lexus is 75 percent
Well, that’s kind of the point. The Lexus, much like a Mercedes-Benz, is a put the car in drive and go type of vehicle. It doesn’t have the abilities that the BMW does to put a smile on your face. Where the Lexus may be the cheaper man’s limousine, the BMW is the one where you say, “Screw the driver, I drive myself!” It gives you that feeling that you are in command much more than the others. You have more of a sporty presence and feeling, too. Something about BMWs scream passion, whereas the Lexus’s, well, they scream passionless pursuit. Lexus lays claim to “The Pursuit of Passion” in a few of their ads. That’s just not true… You can like and love the Lexus. I won’t judge you. But, when you take a drive in the new 7… Well, I’ll wait to see and hear your reaction to perfection.
BMW’s dedication to performance does not extend to the 7-series, and any efforts that you want to convince yourself that they infuse into the 7-series is an utter fallacy. Even if BMW were amateurish enough to attempt pursuing the same “I drive myself” driving experience as in their sportier offerings, it would simply be suffering a severe identity crisis: supple luxury versus responsive performance. Sportiness isn’t even a criterion in upmarket full-size luxury saloons, and you’ve negated your own argument when BMW actually produces a long-wheelbase option *specifically* for chauffeur. Furthermore, your editorial neutrality is completely compromised when you construct your thesis around praising an automaker when you are supposed to form unbiased comparisons. If somebody wanted a fantastically underdeveloped, unbalanced opinion, such as yours, they would have asked uninformed kids in any suburb. You’ve even confessed that you’ve never liked Far Eastern imports– a plea that has done everything to counteract your neutrality. I highly doubt you are professionally employed to write this bullshit; who the hell would want to hire somebody who is only going to make accusations?
Nice, Josh just got his ass pwned by Neutrality.
Once again, readers are calling out this bullshit trying to pass itself off as “good journalism,” Josh, I suggest you go back to being a car salesman.
I’ll take my E60 over the GS any day but if I were in the market for a bigger car, I’d take the LS over the 7, hands down.
Calvin, I’ll grant you that the LS is a very nice camry…the profiles above even suggest so. The Japanese make great plastic…the Germans make a great motor. Coffee is closers Calvin, and you’re LS is sipping on a snapple…